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The CRU enquiry into the climategate emails could get interesting with this submision from the Institute of Physics: [Full story on ClimateAudit]What are the implications of the disclosures for the
integrity of scientific research?
1. The Institute is concerned that, unless the disclosed e-mails are
proved to be forgeries or adaptations, worrying implications arise for
the integrity of scientific research in this field and for the
credibility of the scientific method as practised in this context.
2. The CRU e-mails as published on the internet provide prima facie
evidence of determined and co-ordinated refusals to comply with
honourable scientific traditions and freedom of information law. The
principle that scientists should be willing to expose their ideas and
results to independent testing and replication by others, which requires
the open exchange of data, procedures and materials, is vital. The lack
of compliance has been confirmed by the findings of the Information
Commissioner. This extends well beyond the CRU itself – most of the
e-mails were exchanged with researchers in a number of other
international institutions who are also involved in the formulation of
the IPCC’s conclusions on climate change.
3. It is important to recognise that there are two completely
different categories of data set that are involved in the CRU e-mail
exchanges:
· those compiled from direct instrumental measurements of land and
ocean surface temperatures such as the CRU, GISS and NOAA data sets; and
· historic temperature reconstructions from measurements of
‘proxies’, for example, tree-rings.
4. The second category relating to proxy reconstructions are the
basis for the conclusion that 20th century warming is unprecedented.
Published reconstructions may represent only a part of the raw data
available and may be sensitive to the choices made and the statistical
techniques used. Different choices, omissions or statistical processes
may lead to different conclusions. This possibility was evidently the
reason behind some of the (rejected) requests for further information.
5. The e-mails reveal doubts as to the reliability of some of the
reconstructions and raise questions as to the way in which they have
been represented; for example, the apparent suppression, in graphics
widely used by the IPCC, of proxy results for recent decades that do not
agree with contemporary instrumental temperature measurements.
6. There is also reason for concern at the intolerance to challenge
displayed in the e-mails. This impedes the process of scientific ’self
correction’, which is vital to the integrity of the scientific process
as a whole, and not just to the research itself. In that context, those
CRU e-mails relating to the peer-review process suggest a need for a
review of its adequacy and objectivity as practised in this field and
its potential vulnerability to bias or manipulation.
7. Fundamentally, we consider it should be inappropriate for the
verification of the integrity of the scientific process to depend on
appeals to Freedom of Information legislation. Nevertheless, the right
to such appeals has been shown to be necessary. The e-mails illustrate
the possibility of networks of like-minded researchers effectively
excluding newcomers. Requiring data to be electronically accessible to
all, at the time of publication, would remove this possibility.
8. As a step towards restoring confidence in the scientific process
and to provide greater transparency in future, the editorial boards of
scientific journals should work towards setting down requirements for
open electronic data archiving by authors, to coincide with publication.
Expert input (from journal boards) would be needed to determine the
category of data that would be archived. Much ‘raw’ data requires
calibration and processing through interpretive codes at various levels.
9. Where the nature of the study precludes direct replication by
experiment, as in the case of time-dependent field measurements, it is
important that the requirements include access to all the original raw
data and its provenance, together with the criteria used for, and
effects of, any subsequent selections, omissions or adjustments. The
details of any statistical procedures, necessary for the independent
testing and replication, should also be included. In parallel,
consideration should be given to the requirements for minimum disclosure
in relation to computer modelling.
Are the terms of reference and scope of the Independent
Review announced on 3 December 2009 by UEA adequate?
10. The scope of the UEA review is, not inappropriately, restricted
to the allegations of scientific malpractice and evasion of the Freedom
of Information Act at the CRU. However, most of the e-mails were
exchanged with researchers in a number of other leading institutions
involved in the formulation of the IPCC’s conclusions on climate change.
In so far as those scientists were complicit in the alleged scientific
malpractices, there is need for a wider inquiry into the integrity of
the scientific process in this field.
11. The first of the review’s terms of reference is limited to:
“…manipulation or suppression of data which is at odds with acceptable
scientific practice…” The term ‘acceptable’ is not defined and might
better be replaced with ‘objective’.
12. The second of the review’s terms of reference should extend
beyond reviewing the CRU’s policies and practices to whether these have
been breached by individuals, particularly in respect of other kinds of
departure from objective scientific practice, for example, manipulation
of the publication and peer review system or allowing pre-formed
conclusions to override scientific objectivity.
How independent are the other two international data sets?
13. Published data sets are compiled from a range of sources and are
subject to processing and adjustments of various kinds. Differences in
judgements and methodologies used in such processing may result in
different final data sets even if they are based on the same raw data.
Apart from any communality of sources, account must be taken of
differences in processing between the published data sets and any data
sets on which they draw.
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Environment and Climate ministers meeting in closed session in Bali last
night
insisted that an independent review should be carried out following
the
publicising of mistakes in its last report, and a row surrounding Dr
Pachauri's robust response to his critics. If his management is found
to be
at fault his position could become untenable.
Participants in the unprecedented meeting – held at the annual assembly
of the
Governing Council of the United Nations Environment Programme's (UNEP)
Governing Council in Bali – were sworn to secrecy over the decision
and it
is only expected to be announced after its detaled scope and
composition
have been worked out by UNEP and the World Meteorological
Organisation, the
two UN agencies that oversee the IPCC's work.
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Friday, February 26, 2010 11:19:22 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | Climate Change
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Thursday, February 25, 2010 |
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Some years ago when I was working in the Geophysical Survey industry in Aberdeen, Scotland, I went on a course delivered by Les Hatton. Les struck me as a true gent. Intelligent, humble, and funny. His course in "safer C" left a lasting impression on me. Well, it was interesting to see his name crop up on The Register where he questioned the IPCC claim that there was a link between hurricane activity and recent warming. His conclusion, which is available at the Register link above, is fully verifiable by anyone with basic Excel skills. He claims that there is no statistical link. Les emailed me today to say that this article is his second most downloaded paper in his whole career, which is not insignificant. On the same day, Roger Pielke Jr reported that the World Met Office came to exactly the same conclusion (OK, more or less). My point? Well, Les Hatton isn't exactly the guy down the pub with an opinion. He is a respected academic with an impressive track record in Geophysics and Software Engineering. If he can pick up some data an run it through Excel, and come to the same conclusion as the supposed "experts" in their area, in a matter of days. then why on earth don't the climate scientists open all their work to outside scrutiny? On the same day, I hear that John Graham-Cumming has had his work confirmed by the UK Met Office showing bugs in their temperature software. As I have said before, and as many others have said, including Steven Mosher, we need to open up the whole game to the public domain. This is the only way trust will be restored in climate science. |
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Steven Mosher writes a good article on PajamasMedia on climategate.I read his book co-authored with Thomas Fuller - ClimateGate - The CruTape Letters and found this to be a very well presented discussion on Climategate. It doesn't paint a great picture of science at the CRU, but it does do so in a politically neutral and factually accurate ( I believe) way. Mosher and Fuller have followed the climate story for a while and can provide context to the emails via discussions with Steve McIntyre et al. The Pajamas media article is well worth a read, because Steven Mosher takes the time to answer almost all of the commenters on his article. He does this in an unemotive and factually correct way. We should take note of this.  |
Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:56:01 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | climategate
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We'll, I'll believe it when it happens. Fox news here |
Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:32:02 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | Climate Change
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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 |
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Over on WUWT Dr Judith Curry of Georgia Tech has written a piece on rebuilding credibility in Climate science in the post-climategate era. Although a lot of the replies were fairly harsh, I believe that Dr Curry is well intentioned and her views on the blogosphere and the intelligent "auditor" (esp Steve McIntyre) are well said. In my profession (software development), the blogosphere is now the only public peer review process. Not only does it give your work credibility, it demonstrates to the outside world your ability and professional ethics. Publishing software work in blogs gives kudos and peer respect. In my opinion, this is the only way forward for climate science - extend and reach to the wider intelligent blogosphere. Publish and be damned, as they say. So in that respect, I would like to congratulate Dr Curry on her essay. Let's have more like this. |
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This write-up from James Delingpole nicely exposes some of the obvious gaps in the carbon trading logic.
This story was covered by Christopher Booker a while back, so I am quite familiar with it. The amazing thing is that the mainstream media has completely avoided the topic.
The synopsys is this: "Corus’ steelworks at Redcar, near Middlesbrough, “Teesside Cast Products”, is
to be closed (”mothballed” is the euphemism). It is Britain’s last great
steelworks and an essential national resource. Without it, we are at the world’s
mercy.
Corus is owned by Tata Steel of India. Recently, Tata received
“EU-carbon-credits” worth up to £1bn, ostensibly so that steel-production at
Redcar would not be crippled by the EU’s “carbon-emissions-trading-scheme”. By
closing the plant at Redcar – and not making any “carbon-emissions” – Tata walks
off with £1bn of taxpayers’ money, which it will invest in its steel-factories
in India, where there is no “carbon-emissions-trading-scheme”. "
So, Tata walk off with one billion pound of carbon credits, that they can trade freely on the carbon market. Happily paid for by the British taxpayer.
A new steelworks is opened in India, with no net change in emissions whatsoever My dear old NZ government is apparently committed to an emissions trading scheme, which will open up all sorts of similar irregularities. Meanwhile, the average NZ householder lives in a poorly insulated, inefficient house; we export our coal to China, so they can build us windmills that will never supply our energy needs. Major polluters get subsidised by the NZ taxpayer. Damned right - it's time to get angry.
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 |
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"Leading scientists say that the recent controversies
surrounding climate research have damaged the image of science as a
whole. President of the US National Academy of Sciences, Ralph
Cicerone, said scandals including the "climategate" e-mail row had
eroded public trust in scientists. "
Sad but true. The "Post-normal" science of climate change has done huge damage to the image of science as a whole.
From the BBC here
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Friday, February 19, 2010 |
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It's good to see the NZ mainstream media finally picking up on Climategate, though sometimes it seems like "dark matter"
That is, we talk about it on the radio and in print (TV, I don't think so), yet the media assume that we know what it is , via what is commonly known as the Blogosphere. (aka The Thing That Made Mainstream Media Irrelevent in 2010) (tm)
Anyway, a Listener article this week asked David Wratt, NZ lead contributer to the IPCC (WG1) report. (and I paraphrase)
"What is the evidence for man-made global warming?"
Answer: "Plenty"
"Phew", I said.
For a minute, I thought all those terrible stories about lost data, corrupt peer review processes, broken hockey sticks, absurd software, stapled together Greenpeace flyers, WWF dosiers, urban heat island effects, missing scientific ethics, ..
..were all just a concocted story by a "denialist industry" funded by Oil and Coal industries.
So thanks, David, "plenty" has eased my mind.
I can now sleep easy in my bed
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Friday, February 19, 2010 3:13:38 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | Climate Change
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Nice piece by Jim Hopkins in the NZHerald over here |
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Thursday, February 18, 2010 |
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China in the lead?asks the Sage of Global Warming Al Gore "China vaulted past competitors in Denmark, Germany, Spain and the
United States last year to become the world's largest maker of wind
turbines, and is poised to expand even further this year."
"China has also leapfrogged the West in the last two years to emerge as
the world's largest manufacturer of solar panels. And the country is
pushing equally hard to build nuclear reactors and the most efficient
types of coal power plants."
I was in China last year. I can tell you I didn't see a single windmill. How will they power this industry? I would make a suggestion that it will be coal. After all, my home country exports most of its coal to China. Carbon neutral? I don't think so |
Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:03:20 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | Climate Change
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Shame the mainstream media can't show interviews like this. Release the
data, release the code, let's all see what's really going on
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A few of us have been wondering how independent the Muir Russell enquiry into the CRU emails is. Geoffrey Boulton's name seems to be cropping up quite a bit at the moment.
What are universities for? (From Geoffrey Boulton
Vice-Principal of the University of Edinburgh) http://blogs.uct.ac.za/blog/transplant-ed/2009/04/02/what-are-universities-for-from-geoffrey-boulton-vice-principal-of-the-university-of-edinburgh "...Thirty
years ago, scientists who studied climate change, and I am one of them,
tended to have long hair and very colourful socks. We were regarded as
harmless but irrelevant. But the serendipitous investment in their work
revealed processes that we now recognise as threatening the future of
human society, and the successors to those scientists are playing a
crucial role in assessing how we need to adapt..."
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 |
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:25:25 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw | Climate Change
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You have to hand it to Richard North over at EUReferendum, he comes up with some real pearls. http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/02/satisfactory-model-of-complete.htmlSome quotes: The research investigated "the usefulness of imprecise
probability concepts for assessing and processing the large and diverse
uncertainty that needs to be considered in climate policy analysis.
Imprecise probabilities are constituted by entire sets of probability
measures." ... And you will be pleased to learn that the theoretical
part consisted of an analysis of the decision theoretical as well as
evidential basis of imprecise probabilities in the light of climate
change. In the applied part, it investigated how the presence of
ambiguity, i.e., imprecise information, can alter the results of
model-based analyses of climate protection strategies and policy
instruments. ..." "...It seems they had their work cut out. Fortunately,
the work – completed in May last year – only cost us €245,365.00 –
excluding VAT of course. Mind you, I could have provided "a satisfactory
model of complete ignorance," absolutely free of charge" |
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:59:01 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 |
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Monday, February 15, 2010 |
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OK, where do we start?
(1) They play shots of storms and melting ice over the interview as if to imply "man-made global warming is happening, this guy is obviously a crackpot". There is no published data that shows links between storms and man-made global warming.
(2) They make fun of his eyes, which is from a medical condition known as "Graves Disease"
(3) They dismiss his credentials by referring to his having been once an editor of a catholic newspaper, even though he was actually a policy advisor in Margaret Thatchers government.
(4) They state that he is "not a scientist, unlike James Hansen" Lord Monckton has scientific papers published in peer reviewed science journals.
Lord Monckton is correct in his statement about Hansen's extreme views on those who disagree with him.
See this Facebook page which gives some idea how extreme Hanson's views are.
He famously describes coal trains as Death Trains and uses many other extremist tactics to get his view across.
This is all very well, we are entitled to free speech, but Hanson is a lead contributer to IPCC reports and a major driver in the so-called science of Climate Change.
I say "so-called" because any true science is constantly challenged in its theories. The fact that this has not happened is quite clear from reading the CRU "Climategate "emails. The scientists at the centre of the AGW theory have created their own world of self-peer-reviewed literature and completely locked out all dissent.
The public are waking up to this and media companies like TVNZ are accomplices to this crime.
Given that we have extremists like Hansen driving multi-trillion dollar carbon schemes that will tax many out of existence, it seems reasonable that Lord Monckton should get a fairer hearing.
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Monday, February 15, 2010 4:07:06 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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From the Times Online
www.surfacestations.org gets a mention, which brought the low quality of temperature stations to the world's attention.
It's always the "skeptics" that seem to be doing all the Quality Control in climate science. What's wrong with this picture?
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Monday, February 15, 2010 3:19:05 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 |
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From the BBC
Quite stunning really. Finally some sense returns:
B - Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming?
Yes, but only just
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:40:41 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Friday, February 12, 2010 |
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Within hours of the launch of an independent panel to investigate claims that climate scientists covered up flawed data on temperature rises, one member has been forced to resign after sceptics questioned his impartiality
[Ed - still seems weird this use of the word "sceptic - do they not understand the concept of scientific impartiality?]
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Friday, February 12, 2010 10:13:45 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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The Age of Stupid
From the "self-lampooning AgitProp movie category", we have the seminal film
"The Age of Stupid"
http://www.ageofstupid.net
Quote:
Kids sign up their schools to 10:10 at the launch of the
schools pack at the Guardian offices yesterday
Author Anthony Horowitz - one of 10:10's biggest fans - describes
how the flooding of his house convinced him to start acting
on climate change and how a little rearranging of his promotional
schedule meant he could cut 4 flights
Kids show off their Stupid-inspired artwork.
The quote says "We knew how to profit but not to protect",
Fernand Pareau's final thought in the film
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Friday, February 12, 2010 7:36:59 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Friday, February 12, 2010 3:09:48 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 |
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Prof Jerome Ravetz of Oxford University has written a very well written piece over here which discusses Climategate with particular reference to his concept of
Post Normal Science.
I enjoyed the read, but these are my comments that I posted on WUWT:
This is a well written piece, but it is easy to be seduced by the language. Personally, I find the concepts of “post normal science” quite disturbing.
I have worked as a scientist and as a software developer for some 30 years.
I have also undertaken a lot of endevours such as climbing in the Himalaya, paragliding, and kayaking.
In all of these activities, there are often times when the “stakes are high”
In these situations, we do not throw out our preconceived ideas.
In all this areas, we develop processes where we can react to the high pressure demands of the task in hand with a clear and reasoned approach.
When facing an impending storm at 6000m in the Gangotri mountains, believe me the last thing you need is a paradigm shift.
In this sense, I do not understand why climate change “science” needs a paradigm shift, especially as there is no immediate signal that any drastic action is required
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Tuesday, February 09, 2010 |
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Speaking as someone educated in Maths at the windy and cold cloisters of Cambridge University, some 30 years ago, I was long ago educated in the concept of the word "axiomatic"
This in English means "self-evident" or "obvious", but in Mathematical terms means an assertion that is assumed to be true upon which we can base all our other assumptions or theorems.
It seems to me that we need to determine what are the axioms of climate science. From my relatively short time delving into this topic (h/t to WUWT) with all its emotional and political baggage, we desperately need to return to first principles and determine "what are the axioms of climate science?" (Specifically with respect to climate change or global warming)
Is it axiomatic that the earth is currently warming?
Is it axiomatic that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?
Is it axiomatic that mankind is emitting CO2?
These are some of my questions and I have learnt to completely throw out all my pre-conceived ideas and start from scratch.
Any ideas?
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Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:34:04 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Friday, February 05, 2010 |
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Sorry, but it is so hard to take these Tyndall guys seriously.
pdf here
Some little tidbits from this pearler.
Carbon Sequestration Viability
On the whole, both groups were in agreement that global warming was a problem and
that it was at least partly due to the industrial activities of humankind over the last
century and a half. Only one member of the first focus group was not convinced by
these claims, contending that the earth was currently in an interglacial period and that
the changes in temperature were therefore predominantly a natural phenomenon.
[Ed: Denier! Burn the heretic!]
On the subject of whether carbon sequestration and storage should be considered as a
potential solution to the problem, or whether it was merely an unacceptable proposed
technical fix to a problem, there was reasonable agreement that the proposals would,
in principle, attract little public opposition:
Researcher Is it an acceptable solution, not merely a technical fix?
Paul It is a technical fix though.
Researcher Would it be rejected by the public on the grounds that it was a
technical fix?
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Alan On the grounds that the public can keep running their cars and get
their electricity cheap it will be accepted.
Paul It’s not a contentious issue, like, to take another scientific
example, GM foods; there’s not the same type of animosity
towards it.
Tim Is it pure CO2 or does it contain pollutants. Is it safe to put those
underground?
[Ed - according to the EPA, CO2 is a pollutant]
Paul What percentage of the CO2 will be captured in the power
stations?
My 2 cents here - we have lost the plot. CO2 is plant food. We can pump it into greenhouses and grow food. This technique is already in use.
How many millions would these daft schemes cost when there are millions starving around the world?
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Friday, February 05, 2010 9:50:37 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Yet more of the overwhelming evidence of human evil on the planet as referenced in IPCC AR4:
Allianz and World Wildlife Fund, 2006: Climate change and the financial sector: an agenda for action
PDF here
Climate change poses a major risk to the global economy: It affects the wealth
of societies, the availability of resources, the price of energy and the value of
companies. [ed - Yeah we know that, we've duped the public already haven't we?]
At the same time, the need to revolutionize the way we use energy opens up a
new universe of options for economic development and social benefits. [ Ed - enough of the perfunctory intro spiel, let's get down to the real agenda]
Oh well, I guess when the science is settled, and the public is generally considered brain-dead, it is OK to put financial product press releases in AR4.
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Friday, February 05, 2010 9:09:37 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Here's a fairly random choice of an email from the Climategate email archive taken from East Anglia University (source www.eastangliaemails.com)
Roger Harribin, BBC's chief warming correspondent, is on the cc list.
Naturally, we can't take chances with the planet's future, but do you really want these guys in charge?
Dear Friends,
A few remarks before the meeting of tonight and tomorrow,
I am sure that our meeting will make clearer the different objectives of
ECF, in particular regarding the articulation between the scientific agenda
and activities in direction to stakeholders and policy-makers.
I would like to stress that I will attend the ECF meeting not only in the
name of the Cired, but also in view of preparing the involvment of the
Institut Laplace in ECF, namely the community of climate modellers, with
which we develop a long term research program. I would like to explain
hereafter in a few words what should be, in my view the priorities of ECF,
in terms of scientific agenda:
Given recent Ipcc experience, the first priority would be to progress in
direction to integrated models. Indeed the lessons of the Ipcc are twofold:
- first the Sress scenarios confirm the possibility of generating very
different emissions growth scenarios over the long run, but the consistency
between the Storylines and the numerical scenarios remain uncertain; this
uncertainty and vagueness reveals a more fundamental limitation of the
state of the art of economic modelling over the long run, in particular to
provide an explicit picture of linkages between structural changes
(infrastructure transportation, urban forms that govern the energy content
of final consumption, industrial structure and the so-called
dematerialisation), innovation and both macro and micro economic drivers
(productivity, growth and price-signals). This makes very difficult to
detect where are the real bifurcations, the real policy-parameters and to
make much progress in the understanding of the timing of policy responses,
- second the sections on 'damages ' have make some progress but remain
weak in terms of the social and economic implications. More precisely they
deal mostly with impacts on physical parameters (sea-level rise), in a few
cases adress impacts on humans (tropical diseases), but all this does not
give a comprehensive picture of social and economic damages (once
discounted the effect of adapatation),
One of the scientific objective of ECF should be to be prepared to provide
in a few years for a convincing contribution in future exercises like the
SRES and in the future Ipcc rounds. This passes first through two parallel
efforts:
- on long term economic modelling where the limitations of existing tools
are obvious depiste real progress; this relates basically to three
challenges:
- a macroeconomic framework insuring the consistency between prices and
quantities at any point in time without necessarily resorting to the
modelling tricks relying on the conventional neo-classical growth theory;
these 'tricks' assume indeed perfect foresight, efficient markets and the
absence of strategic or routine behaviours; New conceptual frameworks about
endogenous growth theory allow for such a move, but there is a gap between
advances in pure theory and empirical modelling,
- the endogeneisation of technical change and more precisely to develop
this endogeneisation in such a way that the information coming from
sectoral models in energy, transportation or agriculture is not lost (this
comes back to the bottom-up/top-down controversy); note that one key
challenge here is to progress in direction to transportation and agriculture
- an explicit treatment of expectations and uncertainty; one key issue
indeed is that the stabilisation of expectations over the long run is the
main driver of technical change, consumption patterns and structural
adaptation.
- on 'coupling' economic and climate models: here there are two routes,
either to develop coupling methods between large-scale models or to develop
interface compact modules, reduced forms of large scale models. Both routes
are valid, however, in the following years, to develop integrated models
made up with reduced forms of larger models seems more promising; thanks to
tractable and numerically controlable models, in will be easier to reveal
the key mechanisms at work and to introduce uncertainties. This will pass
through progress in the representation of carbon cycle (including
sequestration) in such models and, more importantly in the representation
of damages and adaptation, which rises rather fundamental conceptual issues
that explain what seems to be the second priority in my view.
The second prority relates to the joint question of damages and
precautionary principle:
- part of the agenda is covered by Mike Hulme's paper and I will not
elaborate here on other dimensions I would link to include and how to
assess a cost. I will simply insist of the fact that we need to set up a
taxonomy of damages in economic terms, this means as resulting not of the
climate transformation per se but from the joint effect of inertia and
uncertainty (to pass to Riviera to the beaches of Normandy in not a cost in
itself in a world restabilized around a new climate equilibrium; what
matter are the transition costs and the generated variability of climate).
Moreover I would insist for adopting deliberately a worldview because,
fundamentally, climate change will generate a new human geography, and not
to be restricted to the European subcontinent,
- this should lead to develop in parallel stochastic decision modelling
tools to disentangle the many dimensions and views about the precautionary
principle and, I take some risks in saying that, in a symmetric treatment
of climate damages and nuclear risks (we cannot avoid to try and put some
rationale in this discussion which is one of the reason for the failure of
the EU tax in 1992 and of COP6, and which will be an 'hidden' division line
within the EU)
The third priority should be the topic 1 made by Klaus. For me the two
first modelling efforts I described briefly are outmostly important to
bring new insights for responding the question of the instruments. However,
we have, before waiting for the acheivement of a new generation of models
(which will respond to point 2 and 3 of Klaus's paper), it matters to
develop in parallel a specific programm on international coordination
architecture given the failure of COP6 and the lack of understanding of
economic and social implications of the selection of this architecture
(coordination through prices or quantities, full agreement or partial
expanding coalition, issue linkages, perceived equity etc ....). This
workprogramm should build on advances on the role of economic and non
economic instruments in fostering innovation, and on the distributive
static and dynamic implications of such instruments.
These are very brief remarks, simply to give you some ideas about my
current perspectives.
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Friday, February 05, 2010 8:48:29 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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“Western populations would accept serfdom if it was packaged as saving the earth"
Bertrand Russell
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Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:34:28 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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This is an absolute must read for any self respecting scientist, or anyone else interested in how science has been perverted to meet the needs of its political masters |
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:48:31 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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Tuesday, February 02, 2010 |
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A dystopia (from the Greek δυσ- and τόπος, alternatively, cacotopia,[1] kakotopia, cackotopia, or anti-utopia) is the often futuristic vision of a society in which conditions of life are miserable and characterized by poverty, oppression, war, violence and/or terror, resulting in widespread unhappiness, suffering, and other kinds of pain
Wikipedia
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Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:21:27 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | Personal Thoughts
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In the wake of the fact that the Guardian is now actually reporting Climate gate, this seems remarkably incongruous:
George Monbiot’s Climate Denier cards:
“Monbiot’s royal flush: Cut out and keep climate change denier cards ”
Stocking fillers for all Guardian readers’ kids next Christmas?
Too creepy for words.
Click here
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Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:21:25 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00) | | agw
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